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	<title>Comments on: The Agony of Switching IDEs</title>
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		<title>By: Troodon</title>
		<link>http://geekblog.oakcircle.com/2008/05/28/the-agony-of-switching-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator>Troodon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Try Lazarus/FPC, the multiplatform Delphi-like IDE.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Software-Infos &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Re: software fÃ¼r win / linux - Programmieren: Software-Entwicklung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Software-Infos &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Re: software fÃ¼r win / linux - Programmieren: Software-Entwicklung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Ahnung von dem haben womit sie gerne Geld verdienen mÃ¶chten. 3.) GUIs kannst du in vielen Sprachen mittels zusÃ¤tzlicher Bibliotheken auf einfache Weise erzeugen. Java ist nett, weil zu den verschiedenen [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ahnung von dem haben womit sie gerne Geld verdienen mÃ¶chten. 3.) GUIs kannst du in vielen Sprachen mittels zusÃ¤tzlicher Bibliotheken auf einfache Weise erzeugen. Java ist nett, weil zu den verschiedenen [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t you miss Borland&#8217;s no-nonsense EULA? (sigh) at Commonsense Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t you miss Borland&#8217;s no-nonsense EULA? (sigh) at Commonsense Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] An agreement decent people might freely enter, and have respect for (check the sentiment expressed here). Our world needs more of this sort of [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Head Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Head Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know me well. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know me well. <img src='http://geekblog.oakcircle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ploni Almoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ploni Almoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been trying to get used to XCode, which is supposed to be a terrific system that encourages MVC programming in Macs, and &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; have some tools that are very helpful for Cocoa and Carbon programs, so I feel your pain. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m thinking of getting the third edition of the canonical Cocoa book even though I have the equivalent of the second on my Kindle, just because of some serious changes Apple made in 3.0 that are impossible to deal with using the older book. Maybe I should drop it, use code::blocks (does it work in OS X? Maybe so, even if it might require that X11.App is loaded... Hmm, just looked at the website &quot;less stable than the other ports&quot; ugh!) or something, and use wxWidgets. Or use a text editor, VIM and Emacs have Mac editions. (Plural, vim has two and Emacs three GUI editions native to OS X, and the text mode ones come included with OS X. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[uberGeek mode on:]
Yes, that sounds like a lot, but Linux has two (if you count the GNUstep one that&#039;s native to both OS X and GNUstep) GUI Emacs and at least two GUI vim editions.)) OS X actually only has two native toolkits basically, Cocoa and Carbon, but vim has two efforts at porting, and Emacs has two Cocoa ones, one that&#039;s specifically for OS X, and the one I use (for Lisp only basically, otherwise I prefer vi) which is the *Step version. (NeXTStep/OpenStep/GNUstep API.) I actually like it better than the AquaEmacs version, and the official Carbon Emacs, as well as the fact that its cross-platform. For some reason its less well-known than AquaEmacs, which is widely recommended, or Carbon Emacs, which is the original native OS X Emacs and is available for download at apple.com. Actually, unlike AquaEmacs, *Step Emacs is an official GNU effort (as is Carbon), and to me looks better than Aqua Emacs, although they both use the same Aqua API; one simply uses the (growing) subset GNUstep supports.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, I know, whatever blows my kilt up.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to get used to XCode, which is supposed to be a terrific system that encourages MVC programming in Macs, and <em>does</em> have some tools that are very helpful for Cocoa and Carbon programs, so I feel your pain. </p>

<p>I&#8217;m thinking of getting the third edition of the canonical Cocoa book even though I have the equivalent of the second on my Kindle, just because of some serious changes Apple made in 3.0 that are impossible to deal with using the older book. Maybe I should drop it, use code::blocks (does it work in OS X? Maybe so, even if it might require that X11.App is loaded&#8230; Hmm, just looked at the website &#8220;less stable than the other ports&#8221; ugh!) or something, and use wxWidgets. Or use a text editor, VIM and Emacs have Mac editions. (Plural, vim has two and Emacs three GUI editions native to OS X, and the text mode ones come included with OS X. </p>

<p>[uberGeek mode on:]
Yes, that sounds like a lot, but Linux has two (if you count the GNUstep one that&#8217;s native to both OS X and GNUstep) GUI Emacs and at least two GUI vim editions.)) OS X actually only has two native toolkits basically, Cocoa and Carbon, but vim has two efforts at porting, and Emacs has two Cocoa ones, one that&#8217;s specifically for OS X, and the one I use (for Lisp only basically, otherwise I prefer vi) which is the *Step version. (NeXTStep/OpenStep/GNUstep API.) I actually like it better than the AquaEmacs version, and the official Carbon Emacs, as well as the fact that its cross-platform. For some reason its less well-known than AquaEmacs, which is widely recommended, or Carbon Emacs, which is the original native OS X Emacs and is available for download at apple.com. Actually, unlike AquaEmacs, *Step Emacs is an official GNU effort (as is Carbon), and to me looks better than Aqua Emacs, although they both use the same Aqua API; one simply uses the (growing) subset GNUstep supports.</p>

<p>Yes, I know, whatever blows my kilt up.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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